Responding to Atheist Arguments

A few months ago, an agnostic friend passed on this article to me. Even though it was written in 1894, most arguments against the inspiration of Scripture haven’t changed much, and I continue to hear these same arguments regularly. The Lutheran Church is not a cult. We’re not afraid of alternative viewpoints. In fact, we welcome them. That said, we’re not necessarily going to agree with them, but we’re happy to talk about what we do and don’t believe and why. At the same time, we can occasionally get caught off-guard by arguments we’ve not heard before and not know how to respond, since these arguments can come from many different fields, from ancient history to quantum theory. So with this discussion, we hope to examine these questions and see how valid they are and answer them from our perspective. We invite any atheists or agnostics who’d like to attend to come and discuss these questions. This study will last several weeks until we work through the entire document together.

We began this discussion a couple months ago on Sunday mornings, but by popular demand, we’re also starting it up with our Sunday evening class on November 15, 2009. Come join us Sundays at 7 PM in the All-Purpose Room (church basement), or listen online.

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Honest discussion

English: Atheist avatar.

English: Atheist avatar. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

After inviting a handful of atheist bloggers to our Genesis discussion, one of their readers sent me a poem. Sadly, the email address given was fake, so I couldn’t respond directly, so in the interests of making a point, I’ll post the comment publicly and respond (it’s a bit crude–you’re warned):

The Christian’s Jehovah is Almighty God,
a capricious and cantankerous sod,
and, so far as I can tell,
the Christian often is as well.

because

The Bible Bogey, he’s taught to see,
is three that’s one, and one that’s three;
it’s a father, a son, and a friggin’ ghost,
that with magic spells becomes wine and toast!
With the problem of theodicy,
it sure as hell is idiocy.

similarly

The Jew’s Yahweh is a wrathful old jerk,
setting strict rules on when to work,
how to dress, and what to eat and sip,
and giving baby boys the snip.
Myths of Bronze Age, goat-herding nomads
metaphorically get them, by the gonads.

also

The Muslim’s Allah is a fierce great djinn;
Submission is even the name of his religion.
Apostasy is treated just like a crime;
they’ll threaten to kill you, to keep you in line.
The Religion of Peace is what they call it,
with warfare & terror, they zealously enforce it.

likewise

Zoroastrian, Buddhist, Hindu, Sikh, and Jain,
Confucianist, Taoist, Wiccan, – they’re all insane;
the faithful of every cult or religion,
are mired in the miasma of superstition.

My response:

That brings us to the atheist
Who says he’s not religionist
Yet holds that God does not exist
But without proof, he’ll still insist.

Instead of intellectual theses,
He’s satisfied throwing verbal feces.
While holding tight to Dawkins’ nape,
He shows his relative’s an ape.

But all rancor from either place
Results in only saving face.
To coexist, instead we must
Sit down together and discuss.

Hammer your sword into a stein,
And raise your glass of malt or wine.
Then talk of what we disagree,
To see with your eyes, and yours through me.




6 Reasons why atheism won’t replace Christianity (Or, how psychology confirms theology)

Decaying AtheismLast week, Psychology Today published an opinion piece, trying to disguise it as science, showing that atheism will replace religion. So, given that this would threaten my own job security, I thought I’d better check it out. And now, having read it, I’d like to thank the author for once again demonstrating the axiom, “Often, when scientists reach the mountaintop of discovery, they find the theologians who have been waiting for them there for thousands of years.”

Statistical Theology

The author, Nigel Barber, points out the increase in atheism in “developed” countries and cites, “Anthropologist James Fraser proposed that scientific prediction and control of nature supplants religion as a means of controlling uncertainty in our lives.”  In the Lutheran Church, we call this, “The Theology of the Cross” (which, incidentally, happens to be the central topic of our current Sunday morning Bible class). In short, it’s through suffering that God calls us back to Him. When we consider most of our lives to be happy and content, we see no need for God. When things get bad, though, we tend to remember how much we need Him. This study simply demonstrates statistically what Luther said 500 years ago and the entire Old Testament history of Israel exemplifies. (Read the Book of Judges for a great example.)

Fun with Statistics

While increased intelligence and atheism tend to follow the same trends, still only 36.6% of the most elite professors consider themselves atheists, which means that, while many of our intellectual elite don’t believe in God and tend to worship the human mind and its accomplishments instead (which makes sense, considering their field), the majority still believe in God. Further, since the birth rate among religious people is considerably higher than that of atheists, and since children tend to inherit their parents’ beliefs, atheists will eventually disappear simply through their own parenting plans.

That said, atheism is growing in America (I couldn’t find worldwide historical trends.) Atheism is growing at a slow-but-steady rate. And while this rate, if trends continue (and historically, we know these trends tend to fluctuate, so it’s unlikely), Protestant Christianity will last another 258 years, but it’ll be 780 years before the flying cars are all being driven by atheists.

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God of Science

Many scientists, the more they learn about creation, come to the conclusion that our universe points to God. While God did not give us the Bible as a science book, we should expect that the Creator of the universe should know a thing or two about it, and the more we compare the Bible to science, the more we learn that the universe affirms the truth of the Bible.

Got Guilt?

While many religions sadly promote guilt, only the Bible can actually cure guilt. A psychologist can tell you not to feel guilty or tell you that you have no reason to feel that way, but the only actual solution for guilt can be found on the cross, where our guilt was nailed, killed, and left for good (Colossians 2:13-15). Until the world comes up with another solution, our own eyes tell us of the evil and suffering in the world, and our consciences tell us that we are accountable for our sin, and if we’re accountable, we must be accountable to Someone, Who can only be God. But thank God that He has provided the solution that we could not (Romans 5:7,8).

When the Hammer Falls

As a pastor, I’m there in the best times (weddings, births) and the worst times (funerals) in people’s lives. I’ve seen the power of God in those situations, and true the the Theology of the Cross, it’s during the funerals that the promise of God’s love and the assurance of the resurrection shines clearest. Because no matter how bad things get in our lives, we know that it will get better, that Jesus will one day return to take us to a new heaven and earth, free from pain, suffering, and corruption (1 Corinthians 15:51-54). Nobody else can offer that assurance.

Promise Made

Finally, we have the promise from the Creator Himself that the Christian church will continue (Matthew 16:18). He kept His promise to suffer for our sin made way back in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:15), and He has kept all His promises since. God cannot lie (Hebrews 6:18), so we can trust that, one day, atheism will disappear as the Son of God replaces faith with sight. Until then, we persevere and seek to love our neighbor, whether Christian, atheist, or anything else, as we love ourselves.